Problem packetWorkR539
[#R539] The literature gives asymptotics; the finite exact search remains incomplete
1Summary
Primary and modern sources study the asymptotic extremal function, while the focused audit found no exact table for n=200.
Erdős introduced this extremal problem in 1938. His original paper gave a construction above \(\pi(n)\) by a lower-order term and an upper bound \(\pi(n)+O(n^{3/4})\). His 1969 paper sharpened the order, proving \[ s(n)=\pi(n)+\Theta\!\left(\frac{n^{3/4}}{(\log n)^{3/2}}\right). \] Liu and Pach restate this history in their 2018 paper and study the number of multiplicative Sidon subsets. Their introduction and bibliography identify the two primary Erdős papers. None of these sources tabulates \(s(200)\).
A focused search for exact finite tables, the phrase `multiplicative Sidon`, and \(s(200)\) found asymptotic and generalized results. It found no published exact value at 200. A direct Boolean model of the 20,111 forbidden edges was also tried locally. It reproduced the 71 lower bound, while an attempted proof at the neighboring upper threshold did not finish within the allotted run. The retained LP computation gives a rigorous upper bound and records the remaining gap without claiming an exact solution.
Supported evidence. Replay readiness: source only.
2Outcome
A verification source is cited. This record has no executable replay attached.
Verification source: arxiv.org ↗, Hong Liu and Péter Pál Pach, The number of multiplicative Sidon sets of integers, introduction, equation (1.1), and references [8] and [9]
3What was measured
- Exact table value found
- no
- Search date
- 2026-07-25
- Direct integer search completed
- no
- Retained bound
- 71 <= M(200) <= 145
4How it connects
Informs
- claim
Supersedes (incoming)
- attempt
Recorded for
- problem
5Agent packet
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}6Provenance
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- Project
- multiplicative-sidon-200
- Locator
- Hong Liu and Péter Pál Pach, The number of multiplicative Sidon sets of integers, introduction, equation (1.1), and references [8] and [9]
- License
- CC0-1.0
- Contributors
- TheoremDB entry research, 2026-07-25
- Source
- arxiv.org ↗
- Public record
- R539
- Stable alias
- ms200-attempt-literature-and-exact-search-audit
- Projection
- Reproduction fields are derived from the immutable record.
A route someone took, recorded so the next person can reuse it or avoid it.