[#P3010] The 3-uniform partition relation for the continuum
Contents
Problem. Erdős Problem 70: Let $\mathfrak{c}$ denote the cardinality of the continuum. For ordinals $\alpha$, $\beta$ and a cardinal $c$, the 3-uniform ordinal Ramsey property $\alpha \to (\beta, c)^3_2$ is defined as follows: for every 2-coloring of the 3-element subsets of $\alpha$ (identified with its ordinal type), either there exists a subset of order type $\beta$ all of whose 3-element subsets are colored red, or there exists a subset of cardinality $c$ all of whose 3-element subsets are colored blue. The coloring is formally given as a symmetric predicate on ordered triples of distinct elements. Determine whether for every countable ordinal $\beta$ and every integer $n \geq 2$, the partition relation $\mathfrak{c} \to (\beta, n)^3_2$ holds.
Agent access
Work in ChatGPTThe agent reads this problem's research brief and asks you before it saves anything to TheoremDB.
Definitions and notation
1Context
This is Problem 70 from the Erdős problems database, concerning partition calculus in set theory. The 3-uniform case is the triple analogue of the classical ordinal-cardinal Ramsey property. The cases $n \leq 3$ are known to hold trivially, so the first non-trivial case is $n = 4$. Erdős and Rado proved that $\mathfrak{c} \to (\omega + n, 4)^3_2$ for all finite $n \geq 2$, leaving open whether the result extends to $\beta = \omega \cdot 2$ with $n = 4$.
2Definitions
Definition 1 (The cardinality of the continuum, denoted $\mathfrak{c}$). The cardinality of the continuum, denoted $\mathfrak{c}$, is the cardinality of the set of real numbers.
Definition 2 (An ordinal $\beta$). An ordinal $\beta$ is countable if its cardinality is at most $\aleph_0$, the cardinality of the natural numbers.
Definition 3 (For an ordinal $\alpha$, the order type of a subset $s \subseteq \alpha$). For an ordinal $\alpha$, the order type of a subset $s \subseteq \alpha$ is the unique ordinal order-isomorphic to $s$ with the induced ordering.
Definition 4 (A 2-coloring of 3-element subsets of $\alpha$). A 2-coloring of 3-element subsets of $\alpha$ is a function assigning each unordered 3-element subset to one of two colors (conventionally red and blue), formally encoded as a symmetric predicate on ordered triples of distinct elements.
Definition 5 (A subset). A subset is red-monochromatic of order type $\beta$ if it has order type $\beta$ and every 3-element subset is colored red.
Definition 6 (A subset). A subset is blue-monochromatic of cardinality $c$ if it has cardinality $c$ and every 3-element subset is colored blue.
3What counts as a solution
- Give a rigorous proof or counterexample that completely resolves this statement: Erdős Problem 70: Let $\mathfrak{c}$ denote the cardinality of the continuum. For ordinals $\alpha$, $\beta$ and a cardinal $c$, the 3-uniform ordinal Ramsey property $\alpha \to (\beta, c)^3_2$ is defined as follows: for every 2-coloring of the 3-element subsets of $\alpha$ (identified with its ordinal type), either there exists a subset of order type $\beta$ all of whose 3-element subsets are colored red, or there exists a subset of cardinality $c$ all of whose 3-element subsets are colored blue. The coloring is formally given as a symmetric predicate on ordered triples of distinct elements. Determine whether for every countable ordinal $\beta$ and every integer $n \geq 2$, the partition relation $\mathfrak{c} \to (\beta, n)^3_2$ holds.
1Status
Saved packet · July 31, 2026
Saved packet status (Current status and unresolved remainder). OPEN as of 2026-07-31. The maintained Erdős Problems database at commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8 lists Problem 70 as open. The unresolved remainder is the full displayed statement. Give a rigorous proof or counterexample that completely resolves this statement: Erdős Problem 70: Let $\mathfrak{c}$ denote the cardinality of the continuum. For ordinals $\alpha$, $\beta$ and a cardinal $c$, the 3-uniform ordinal Ramsey property $\alpha \to (\beta, c)^3_2$ is defined as follows: for every 2-coloring of the 3-element subsets of $\alpha$ (identified with its ordinal type), either there exists a subset of order type $\beta$ all of whose 3-element subsets are colored red, or there exists a subset of cardinality $c$ all of whose 3-element subsets are colored blue. The coloring is formally given as a symmetric predicate on ordered triples of distinct elements. Determine whether for every countable ordinal $\beta$ and every integer $n \geq 2$, the partition relation $\mathfrak{c} \to (\beta, n)^3_2$ holds.[1]
1Packet records
Recent contributions
Saved work that is not yet in the reviewed packet, one entry per attempt.
Notes and companion material
Original intake status. OPEN as of 2026-07-31. The maintained Erdős Problems database at commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8 lists Problem 70 as open. The unresolved remainder is the full displayed statement.
- The maintained database entry for Erdős Problem 70 was open at commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8.
- The pinned Formal Conjectures declaration was matched by problem number and source locator.
- The controlled TheoremDB source corpus was checked for an already published record with the same slug.
How the 2 records connect
ProblemThe 3-uniform partition relation for the continuum
All 1 recorded relations between these records and the problem
2See also
- Bases over one fixed field and the Axiom of Choicemathematical logic
- Does strong jump traceability imply LR reducibility?mathematical logic
- A random-preserving partial injection that lowers Turing degreemathematical logic
Contribute to this problem
Cite this problem statement
Cite the original sources separately.
“The 3-uniform partition relation for the continuum.” TheoremDB. P3010. Problem statement; statement text SHA-256 786f0fb0b97462827b18b6dc7cab5b917647d37f1982f95d0305ab99afff0064. https://theoremdb.org/statement/?ref=P3010
@misc{theoremdb-problem-786f0fb0b97462827b18b6dc7cab5b917647d37f1982f95d0305ab99afff0064,
title = {{The 3-uniform partition relation for the continuum}},
howpublished = {TheoremDB},
note = {Problem statement; statement text SHA-256 786f0fb0b97462827b18b6dc7cab5b917647d37f1982f95d0305ab99afff0064},
url = {https://theoremdb.org/statement/?ref=P3010}
}Plain text: Built Markdown snapshot
This problem includes 2 records joined by 1 typed links, sourced from erdosproblems.com[1], current as of July 31, 2026.
1References
- Packet source. Erdős Problems database, Problem 70, maintained status record. Erdős Problems record 70, checked 2026-08-01. Problem 70; status field and linked bibliography. ↗reference database · reference source · commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8 · checked 2026-07-31Source use: original summary.Records the current open status and links the literature attached to this exact numbered problem.Also cited at Problem 70; status snapshot 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8.Also cited at See dataset.references[0] for the exact external source and locator.Also cited at Editorial research route recorded 2026-07-31.Source used to formulate or check the problem record.Source used to assess the problem's recorded status.For The 3-uniform partition relation for the continuum: Records the current open status and links the literature attached to this exact numbered problem.Source named by the research packet.
- Erdős problem database, data/problems.yaml, commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8. Problem 70 entry in data/problems.yaml. ↗reference database · reference source · commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8 · checked 2026-07-31Source use: original summary.Pins the maintained database snapshot used for this release's dated status decision.Source used to assess the problem's recorded status.For The 3-uniform partition relation for the continuum: Pins the maintained database snapshot used for this release's dated status decision.
- Google DeepMind, Formal Conjectures, formal statement for Erdős Problem 70. GitHub commit bb1c69dab14ad895ac1ccdb7b0c0e0a67c8eb3e1. FormalConjectures/ErdosProblems/70.lean:L77; theorem erdos_70; commit bb1c69dab14ad895ac1ccdb7b0c0e0a67c8eb3e1. ↗reference database · primary source · commit bb1c69dab14ad895ac1ccdb7b0c0e0a67c8eb3e1 · checked 2026-07-31Source use: original summary.Supplies the pinned formal declaration whose human-readable editorial statement is published here.Source used to assess the problem's recorded status.For The 3-uniform partition relation for the continuum: Supplies the pinned formal declaration whose human-readable editorial statement is published here.
Original TheoremDB editorial prose based on a pinned formal declaration and the maintained status database.
Discussion
Past commenters and subscribers receive notifications when someone comments.