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[#P3032] Asymptotic upper bound for lines containing exactly four points

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Problem. Erdős Problem 101: For a finite set $S$ of $n$ points in $\mathbb{R}^2$, let a line be called determined if it is the affine span of two distinct points of $S$. For a positive integer $k$, let $\mathcal{L}_k(S)$ denote the set of determined lines that contain exactly $k$ points of $S$. A set $S$ is said to be 5-noncollinear if no line contains five or more points of $S$. Define $f(n)$ to be the supremum of $|\mathcal{L}_4(S)|$ over all 5-noncollinear sets $S \subset \mathbb{R}^2$ with $|S| = n$. Determine whether $f(n) = o(n^2)$ as $n \to \infty$.

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1Context

This problem originates from discrete geometry and concerns the distribution of points on lines in the plane. The condition that no five points are collinear is necessary to avoid trivial configurations where many lines could each contain exactly four points.

2Problem setup

Definition 1 (For points $p, q \in \mathbb{R}^2$ with $p \neq q$, the affine span of $\{p, q\}$). For points $p, q \in \mathbb{R}^2$ with $p \neq q$, the affine span of $\{p, q\}$ is the unique line in $\mathbb{R}^2$ passing through both $p$ and $q$.

Remark 1. For a finite set $S \subset \mathbb{R}^2$ and a positive integer $k$, the set $\mathcal{L}_k(S)$ consists of all lines that are affine spans of two distinct points of $S$ and that contain exactly $k$ points of $S$.

Definition 2 (A set $S \subset \mathbb{R}^2$). A set $S \subset \mathbb{R}^2$ is 5-noncollinear if no line in the plane contains five or more points of $S$.

Remark 2. For functions $g, h: \mathbb{N} \to \mathbb{R}$, we write $g(n) = o(h(n))$ as $n \to \infty$ if $\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{g(n)}{h(n)} = 0$.

3What counts as a solution

  • Give a rigorous proof or counterexample that completely resolves this statement: Erdős Problem 101: For a finite set $S$ of $n$ points in $\mathbb{R}^2$, let a line be called determined if it is the affine span of two distinct points of $S$. For a positive integer $k$, let $\mathcal{L}_k(S)$ denote the set of determined lines that contain exactly $k$ points of $S$. A set $S$ is said to be 5-noncollinear if no line contains five or more points of $S$. Define $f(n)$ to be the supremum of $|\mathcal{L}_4(S)|$ over all 5-noncollinear sets $S \subset \mathbb{R}^2$ with $|S| = n$. Determine whether $f(n) = o(n^2)$ as $n \to \infty$.

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Saved packet · July 31, 2026

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Saved packet status (Current status and unresolved remainder). OPEN as of 2026-07-31. The maintained Erdős Problems database at commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8 lists Problem 101 as open. The unresolved remainder is the full displayed statement. Give a rigorous proof or counterexample that completely resolves this statement: Erdős Problem 101: For a finite set $S$ of $n$ points in $\mathbb{R}^2$, let a line be called determined if it is the affine span of two distinct points of $S$. For a positive integer $k$, let $\mathcal{L}_k(S)$ denote the set of determined lines that contain exactly $k$ points of $S$. A set $S$ is said to be 5-noncollinear if no line contains five or more points of $S$. Define $f(n)$ to be the supremum of $|\mathcal{L}_4(S)|$ over all 5-noncollinear sets $S \subset \mathbb{R}^2$ with $|S| = n$. Determine whether $f(n) = o(n^2)$ as $n \to \infty$.[1]

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Original intake status. OPEN as of 2026-07-31. The maintained Erdős Problems database at commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8 lists Problem 101 as open. The unresolved remainder is the full displayed statement.

  • The maintained database entry for Erdős Problem 101 was open at commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8.
  • The pinned Formal Conjectures declaration was matched by problem number and source locator.
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“Asymptotic upper bound for lines containing exactly four points.” TheoremDB. P3032. Problem statement; statement text SHA-256 67bb3dc7a2dc210f335ad972aab324ff13f3b6ef32e2b2fb92453f855b22c1b7. https://theoremdb.org/statement/?ref=P3032
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@misc{theoremdb-problem-67bb3dc7a2dc210f335ad972aab324ff13f3b6ef32e2b2fb92453f855b22c1b7,
  title = {{Asymptotic upper bound for lines containing exactly four points}},
  howpublished = {TheoremDB},
  note = {Problem statement; statement text SHA-256 67bb3dc7a2dc210f335ad972aab324ff13f3b6ef32e2b2fb92453f855b22c1b7},
  url = {https://theoremdb.org/statement/?ref=P3032}
}

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  1. Packet source. Erdős Problems database, Problem 101, maintained status record. Erdős Problems record 101, checked 2026-08-01. Problem 101; status field and linked bibliography. ↗reference database · reference source · commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8 · checked 2026-07-31Source use: original summary.Records the current open status and links the literature attached to this exact numbered problem.Also cited at Problem 101; status snapshot 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8.Also cited at See dataset.references[0] for the exact external source and locator.Also cited at Editorial research route recorded 2026-07-31.Source used to formulate or check the problem record.Source used to assess the problem's recorded status.For Asymptotic upper bound for lines containing exactly four points: Records the current open status and links the literature attached to this exact numbered problem.Source named by the research packet.
  2. Erdős problem database, data/problems.yaml, commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8. Problem 101 entry in data/problems.yaml. ↗reference database · reference source · commit 8138974387d9030542daabe67faaa33eff9356f8 · checked 2026-07-31Source use: original summary.Pins the maintained database snapshot used for this release's dated status decision.Source used to assess the problem's recorded status.For Asymptotic upper bound for lines containing exactly four points: Pins the maintained database snapshot used for this release's dated status decision.
  3. Google DeepMind, Formal Conjectures, formal statement for Erdős Problem 101. GitHub commit bb1c69dab14ad895ac1ccdb7b0c0e0a67c8eb3e1. FormalConjectures/ErdosProblems/101.lean:L51; theorem erdos_101; commit bb1c69dab14ad895ac1ccdb7b0c0e0a67c8eb3e1. ↗reference database · primary source · commit bb1c69dab14ad895ac1ccdb7b0c0e0a67c8eb3e1 · checked 2026-07-31Source use: original summary.Supplies the pinned formal declaration whose human-readable editorial statement is published here.Source used to assess the problem's recorded status.For Asymptotic upper bound for lines containing exactly four points: Supplies the pinned formal declaration whose human-readable editorial statement is published here.

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