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Borel infinite-stack strategies have the same supremum as finite-stack strategies
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}Originating problem: The value of Levine's two-player coin-index game
Recorded relationships: The checked interval is 7/20 through 81/224, and equality at 7/20 remains open
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Let \(\Omega=\{0,1\}^{\mathbb N_{>0}}\) carry its fair product measure, and let \(V_h\) be the optimum when both strategies read the first \(h\) bits and output an index in \(\{1,\ldots,h\}\). The sequence \(V_h\) is nondecreasing because a strategy may ignore extra bits and indices.
Here is a direct approximation argument for the reverse comparison. If \(f:\Omega\to\mathbb N_{>0}\) is Borel and \(\varepsilon>0\), choose \(M\) so that \(\Pr(f>M)<\varepsilon\). The finite measurable partition formed by the fibers \(f^{-1}(1),\ldots,f^{-1}(M)\), together with the tail, can be approximated in measure by a partition measurable with respect to the first \(d\) coordinates. Equivalently, finite-coordinate simple maps are dense in probability among measurable maps to a countable discrete space. This gives a map \(f_{d,M}\), depending on the first \(d\) bits and taking values at most \(M\), with \(\Pr(f_{d,M}\ne f)<2\varepsilon\). For \(h\ge\max(d,M)\), it is an \(h\)-strategy.
Apply this construction to both members \(f,g\) of a Borel strategy pair. The two win indicators can differ only on the event where at least one approximating strategy differs from its target, so their winning probabilities differ by at most the sum of the two mismatch probabilities. Every Borel pair can therefore be approximated arbitrarily closely by finite strategies. Conversely, every finite strategy is Borel. Hence \[ \sup_{f,g\ { m Borel}}\Pr\bigl(A_{g(B)}=B_{f(A)}=1\bigr) =\lim_{h\to\infty}V_h. \] This independently supplies the cylinder-approximation step for Borel fibers that may have empty interior.
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Verification source: arxiv.org ↗, Bouquet et al., Sections 2.1-2.2, Lemmas 6-9, and Theorem 10
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